Hi, please see attached our camper trailer pictures. As mentioned in the introductions section, I have to get this road legal here. I have managed to add the trailer lights, and now need to add a spare wheel.
https://goo.gl/photos/Qw44Yr1Fd8Gga1tZ6
I drive a 2012 Y61 GU Nissan Patrol. I have changed the factory wheels, and now have 4 wheels, which I can use for the trailer.
The Camper trailer comes with 15" wheels, so I will need to change the tyres to 16", which is okay, but I am not sure if the bolt pattern will fit. Nissan wheels are 16" X 8J in 139.5 X 6 bolt pattern, and have a positive 10 offset. The centre bore is 110mm.
I may need to put on longer bolt studs, which seems fairly easy to access, but hopefully easy to knock them out and place longer ones?
Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare wheel
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Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare wheel
Siddharth Patel
Dubai
Cavalier Camper Trailer circa 10 years old.
Dubai
Cavalier Camper Trailer circa 10 years old.
Re: Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare whe
Hi Siddharth,
First up when going up tyre sizes make sure the drop of the tent off the trailer will still touch the ground & able to be pegged. Toyota Landcruiser & Nissan Patrol both have a 6 stud pattern with a 140mm PCD. The rims should fit ok. In the past they had slightly different offsets with J & JJ. I do not know about recent models but a Landcruiser rim would fit the Patrol but not the other way round as the Patrol rim rubbed on the Landcruisers brake caliper.
Longer studs are generally used for aluminium rims that had a thicker centre. To remove put the nut on & hit with a hammer. When putting new ones in make sure the splines on the stud are aligned with the grooves on the rim & put the nut on & do it up which will pull the stud into the hub.
There are several positions where you can mount the sparewheel on your camper trailer. If the tailgate is hinged from the side you could make up a bracket off the tailgate. Make the bracket to bolt on top & bottom or the tailgate will twist with the added weight when you open it.
If the tailgate is a drop down you could make up a swinging bracket off the chassis so the wheel will swing to the side allowing the tailgate to drop down & access to the trailer storage.
You could place the spare in front of the axle on a windup system similar to the Landcruisers so you have easy access without laying in the dirt or mud.
Some have the spare forward or behind the toolbox which are mostly on longer Aframes than normal, however a tyre & steel rim can weigh around 30kg & depending on what you put in the toolbox, can add extra unneeded weight to the towball. Also you need to check there is sufficient clearance to jack knife the trailer so you will not damage your vehicle.
First up when going up tyre sizes make sure the drop of the tent off the trailer will still touch the ground & able to be pegged. Toyota Landcruiser & Nissan Patrol both have a 6 stud pattern with a 140mm PCD. The rims should fit ok. In the past they had slightly different offsets with J & JJ. I do not know about recent models but a Landcruiser rim would fit the Patrol but not the other way round as the Patrol rim rubbed on the Landcruisers brake caliper.
Longer studs are generally used for aluminium rims that had a thicker centre. To remove put the nut on & hit with a hammer. When putting new ones in make sure the splines on the stud are aligned with the grooves on the rim & put the nut on & do it up which will pull the stud into the hub.
There are several positions where you can mount the sparewheel on your camper trailer. If the tailgate is hinged from the side you could make up a bracket off the tailgate. Make the bracket to bolt on top & bottom or the tailgate will twist with the added weight when you open it.
If the tailgate is a drop down you could make up a swinging bracket off the chassis so the wheel will swing to the side allowing the tailgate to drop down & access to the trailer storage.
You could place the spare in front of the axle on a windup system similar to the Landcruisers so you have easy access without laying in the dirt or mud.
Some have the spare forward or behind the toolbox which are mostly on longer Aframes than normal, however a tyre & steel rim can weigh around 30kg & depending on what you put in the toolbox, can add extra unneeded weight to the towball. Also you need to check there is sufficient clearance to jack knife the trailer so you will not damage your vehicle.
happy camping
Rob & Carol
Australian CamperTrailers Group co-owner
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year
Rob & Carol
Australian CamperTrailers Group co-owner
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year
Re: Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare whe
My tailgate on the camper is swing out, hinged only on 1 side. The metal, to me, does not look thick enough to hold, so would need some more metal on the inside to spread the load. Adding more metal, I thought on the A-frame the wheel could be mounted.robcaz wrote:Hi Siddharth,
First up when going up tyre sizes make sure the drop of the tent off the trailer will still touch the ground & able to be pegged. Toyota Landcruiser & Nissan Patrol both have a 6 stud pattern with a 140mm PCD. The rims should fit ok. In the past they had slightly different offsets with J & JJ. I do not know about recent models but a Landcruiser rim would fit the Patrol but not the other way round as the Patrol rim rubbed on the Landcruisers brake caliper.
Longer studs are generally used for aluminium rims that had a thicker centre. To remove put the nut on & hit with a hammer. When putting new ones in make sure the splines on the stud are aligned with the grooves on the rim & put the nut on & do it up which will pull the stud into the hub.
There are several positions where you can mount the sparewheel on your camper trailer. If the tailgate is hinged from the side you could make up a bracket off the tailgate. Make the bracket to bolt on top & bottom or the tailgate will twist with the added weight when you open it.
If the tailgate is a drop down you could make up a swinging bracket off the chassis so the wheel will swing to the side allowing the tailgate to drop down & access to the trailer storage.
You could place the spare in front of the axle on a windup system similar to the Landcruisers so you have easy access without laying in the dirt or mud.
Some have the spare forward or behind the toolbox which are mostly on longer Aframes than normal, however a tyre & steel rim can weigh around 30kg & depending on what you put in the toolbox, can add extra unneeded weight to the towball. Also you need to check there is sufficient clearance to jack knife the trailer so you will not damage your vehicle.
I see your point about increasing the wheel rim diameter, I need to have that check first. Looks like I am going to take 2 wheels of the patrol and fit to the trailer.
I am not clear on your comment on longer studs for aluminium rims, the Nissan are alloys, and I am sure they need new studs to fit, the offset is plus 10, I am not sure what the trailer rims are, and can not find any inscription on the inside of the rim either.
Siddharth Patel
Dubai
Cavalier Camper Trailer circa 10 years old.
Dubai
Cavalier Camper Trailer circa 10 years old.
Re: Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare whe
Hi Siddharth,
The centre of an aluminium rim (where it lays against the trailer hub) is usually thicker than a steel rim which requires longer studs.
The centre of an aluminium rim (where it lays against the trailer hub) is usually thicker than a steel rim which requires longer studs.
happy camping
Rob & Carol
Australian CamperTrailers Group co-owner
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year
Rob & Carol
Australian CamperTrailers Group co-owner
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year
Re: Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare whe
robcaz wrote:Hi Siddharth,
The centre of an aluminium rim (where it lays against the trailer hub) is usually thicker than a steel rim which requires longer studs.
Got it.
Siddharth Patel
Dubai
Cavalier Camper Trailer circa 10 years old.
Dubai
Cavalier Camper Trailer circa 10 years old.
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Re: Some help on this trailer and a solution for a spare whe
Gidday Siddharth
have you thought of mounting the tyre on the draw bar just in front of the box .that is where mine is mounted and I have no problems with that set up .I would question the need for 2 spares as this becomes a lot of extra weight that you will probably never use . I carry a puncture repair kit for tubless tyres in case I get to the second tyre stage, also if you have the same wheels as fitted to the tow vechicle you already have 2 spares . I have travelled from Darwin to Melbourne several times ,a trip of 4000ks through central Australia where at some stretches there is 500k between towns as well as quite a few long distance trips over dirt and gravel roads and have had no need to use the spare or puncture kit . If you mount the tyre on the tail gate you would need to strengthen the gate ,hinges and locks and if your kitchen is fitted to the tail gate I think the spare could cause a heavy vibration through the kitchen and you would eventually find things breaking or not working .
Doug
have you thought of mounting the tyre on the draw bar just in front of the box .that is where mine is mounted and I have no problems with that set up .I would question the need for 2 spares as this becomes a lot of extra weight that you will probably never use . I carry a puncture repair kit for tubless tyres in case I get to the second tyre stage, also if you have the same wheels as fitted to the tow vechicle you already have 2 spares . I have travelled from Darwin to Melbourne several times ,a trip of 4000ks through central Australia where at some stretches there is 500k between towns as well as quite a few long distance trips over dirt and gravel roads and have had no need to use the spare or puncture kit . If you mount the tyre on the tail gate you would need to strengthen the gate ,hinges and locks and if your kitchen is fitted to the tail gate I think the spare could cause a heavy vibration through the kitchen and you would eventually find things breaking or not working .
Doug